Welcome to Risk Chats, AFERM’s podcast that focuses on Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) in the Federal space. Candid insights and perspectives from some of the U.S. Government’s most recognized Chief Risk Officers and Risk Management professionals.
Episode 55: ERM at WMATA
Episode 55: ERM at WMATA

On this episode Paul and Bert Neuhring chat with Liz Sullivan from the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) about their ERM Program!
Episode 54: 2021 ERM Survey Results
Episode 54: 2021 ERM Survey Results
On this episode we chat with Kate Sylvis from Guidehouse about the 2021 Federal ERM Survey Results! Check out the report here: aferm.org/about/surveys
Episode 53: GMU's Chief Risk Officer Program
Episode 53: GMU’s Chief Risk Officer Program
On this episode, we talk with Brett Josephson, George Mason University Associate Dean for Executive Development, about their CRO program! For more information about the program follow this link.
Episode 52: AFERM AGA 2021 ERM Workshop
Episode 52: AFERM AGA 2021 ERM Workshop


On this episode we discuss the report on the results on the 2021 AFERM AGA workshop with Bert Neuhring from Crowe and Steve Kunze from the Department of Commerce.
Episode 51: AFERM President Daniella Datskovska
Episode 51: AFERM President Daniella Datskovska
On this episode we chat with our current AFERM President, Daniella Datskovsa! We discuss her initiatives and goals as President this year.
Episode 50: RM vs ERM
Episode 50: RM vs ERM
This week we are back in the studio with co-host Tal and our returning guest, Doug Webster, to battle it out between risk management and enterprise risk management! What exactly is the difference? Listen in to find out.
Episode 49: Climate Related Risks and Reporting
Episode 49: Climate Related Risks and Reporting
On this episode we chat with Robin Gilliam from FASAB about their Climate-Related Financial Reporting project as well as climate related risks for agencies to consider! For more information go to: fasab.gov/projects/active-projects/climate-impact-and-risk-reporting
Episode 48: RPA Risks
Episode 48: RPA Risks
On this episode we speak with George Fallon, Wayne Liu and Brendon Bowers from RMA about an article they wrote for the AFERM Newsletter about risk associated with Robotic Process Automation (RPA)…along with some opportunities.
Episode 47: Fraud Risk Management Guide Update
Episode 47: Fraud Risk Management Guide Update
On this special dualcast with AGA, we speak with Dave Cotton about the upcoming update to the Committee of Sponsoring Organizations (COSO) of the Treadway Commission/Association of Certified Fraud Examiners (ACFE) Fraud Risk Management Guide (FRMG) originally published in 2016.
- Current FRMG Executive Summary: COSO-Fraud Risk Management Guide-E Summary (PDF on acfe.com)
- Fraud Tools at the ACFE website: Fraud Risk Tools (acfe.com)
- Email to provide comments and suggestions for the FRMG update: frmg@acfe.com
Episode 46: ERM at the Treasury
Episode 46: ERM at the Treasury
On this episode, Paul and Tal chat with Karen Weber from the Department of the Treasury, and Nicole Puri at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service about ERM at the Treasury!