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<description><![CDATA[Welcome to Risk Chats, AFERM’s podcast that focuses on Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) in the Federal space. Candid insights and perspectives from some of the U.S. Government’s most recognized Chief Risk Officers and Risk Management professionals.]]></description>
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<title>Episode 86: AFERM President Twyman</title>
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<description><![CDATA[On this episode we chat with AFERM President Sam Twyman about his goals for this and some big changes afoot for AFERM.]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:12:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 85: AFERM-AGA ERM Workshop 2026</title>
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<description><![CDATA[Today we chat with Bobbi-Jo Pankaj and Bert Nuehring about the AFERM-AGA ERM Workshop coming up January 14, 2026. <strong><a href="https://www.aferm.org/page/agaaferm" target="_blank">Sign up today!</a></strong>]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 15:35:33 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 84: Agile ERM</title>
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<description><![CDATA[On this episode of AFERM Risk Chats, we're joined by Tom Brandt and Norbert Howard to discuss the current state of ERM in the government, how practitioners can take an Agile ERM approach and how to demonstrate the value of ERM to new stakeholders.]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 6 Aug 2025 17:43:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 83: SFFAS 64</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Robin Gilliam from FASAB about the new standard, SFFAS 64 - Management’s Discussion and Analysis: Rescission and Replacement of SFFAS 15. Robin discusses risk management aspects that CROs should be aware of in the new standard. Robin will also be rolling out a training program to the agencies in February, listen to learn more!</p>
<p><strong>Links mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
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    <li>SFFAS 64: <a href="https://files.fasab.gov/pdffiles/handbook_sffas_64.pdf">handbook_sffas_64.pdf</a></li>
    <li>Newsletter and contacts to sign up for training: <a href="https://files.fasab.gov/pdffiles/fasab_newsletter_issue_208_october_november_2024.pdf">fasab_newsletter_issue_208_october_november_2024.pdf</a></li>
    <li><a href="https://fasab.gov/newsroom/listserv-signup/">Subscribe to FASAB e-mail updates</a></li>
    <li><a href="https://fasab.gov/technical-inquiries-2/">Technical Inquiries</a></li>
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<p>To request MD&amp;A training for your agency, please send an email to <a href="mailto:gilliamr@fasab.gov">gilliamr@fasab.gov</a>. The subject line should read: MD&amp;A Training – Agency name.</p>
<p><strong>Additional FASAB Links:</strong></p>
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    <li><a href="https://fasab.gov/newsroom/listserv-signup/">Subscribe to FASAB e-mail updates</a> to stay up to date on FASAB happenings.</li>
    <li>If you need accounting technical help, please visit the <a href="https://fasab.gov/technical-inquiries-2/">Technical Inquiries</a> page.</li>
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:28:37 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 82: ERM Training</title>
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<description><![CDATA[On this episode, we chat with Brad Grams from FAA and Jovandra Sanderlin from EPA about the importance of ERM training from multiple perspectives at an agency! Links to items discussed on the podcast are below:<br />
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[Four Ps] The Policy Playbook for Organizational Resilience, at: <a href="www2.riskonnect.com/rw_24_017_policy_pbook_opres">www2.riskonnect.com/rw_24_017_policy_pbook_opres</a><br />
[Staffing/Training] Understaffed to Fully Stacked, at: <a href="www2.riskonnect.com/23_049_under_staffed">www2.riskonnect.com/23_049_under_staffed</a><br />
[Getting Buy-in/Champions/Support] Putting the Plans in Everyone's Hands: Securing Buy-in For Your Resilience Program, at: <a href="www2.riskonnect.com/Putting_Plans_Everyones_Hands">www2.riskonnect.com/Putting_Plans_Everyones_Hands</a><br />]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:08:18 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 81: European Perspectives on ERM</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, we chat with Dominic Bowen from 2Secure about European perspectives on ERM!</p>
<p><img src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/dominic-bowen-risk-chats-epi.png"><figcaption>Dominic Bowen</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:34:31 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 80: Fed vs State Risk</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Mel Thomson from City of Phoenix and Brad Grams from the FAA join us to debate the differences (and similarities) between Federal and State risk management!</p>
<p><img src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/20241009_071325_20846.jpg" alt="" width="172" height="151"><figcaption>Mel Thomson</figcaption><p>
<p><img src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/brad-grams-300x264__1_.jpeg" alt="" width="172" height="151"><figcaption>Brad Grams</figcaption><p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 9 Oct 2024 12:00:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 79: AI in Risk</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan talk with Taka Ariga from GAO about potential risks from AI!</p>
<p><img src="https://portal.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/Taka-Ariga-Cello-scaled__1_.jpg" alt="" width="172" height="229" /><figcaption>Taka Ariga</figcaption><p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 9 Oct 2024 12:17:21 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 78: ERM at FDIC</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Jill Lennox at the FDIC about their ERM program!</p>
<p><img src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/jill-lennox__headshot__march.jpg"><figcaption>Jill Lennox</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:07:44 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 77: AFERM State &amp; Local Committee</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we talk to members of AFERM’s new State & Local Committee, Mel Thomson from City of Phoenix, Grace Crickette from University of Redlands and Sean Catanese from King County!</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/sean-cantanese-300x300.jpg"><figcaption>Sean Cantanese</figcaption></img></p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/thomson-mel.png" /><figcaption>Mel Thomson</figcaption></img></p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/crickette-grace.png" /><figcaption>Grace Crickette</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:50:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 76: Julie Chua</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with AFERM award winner Julie Chua from HHS! We talk about cyber, healthcare risk, the AFERM Cyber Community of Interest and more!</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/J-Chua-Official-HHS-photo-20.jpg"><figcaption>Julie Chua</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:54:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 75: AFERM President 2024</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, we chat with AFERM’s current President, Jason Bruno, about his goals and agenda for the year!</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/headshot-Bruno-Jason-284x300.jpg"><figcaption>Jason Bruno</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:56:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 74: ERM at VBA</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>This episode we chat with Denise Dunning from the Veterans’ Benefits Administration about their ERM program.</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/Headshot_Dunning_Denise-240x.jpg"><figcaption>Denise Dunning</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:58:04 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 73: ERM at DOI</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>This episode we chat with Jake Lee from the Department of the Interior about their agency-wide ERM program.</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/Headshot_Lee_Jacob-209x300.png"><figcaption>Jake Lee</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:59:31 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 72: Risk Culture at NIH</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan chat with Paul Miller from NIH about Risk Culture and how to measure it! Read the full article Paul wrote for Frontiers here: <a href="https://gate.sc/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.frontiersin.org%2Farticles%2F10.3389%2Ffrma.2022.891324%2Ffull&token=90fa28-1-1710435756036" target="_blank">www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.338…022.891324/full</a></p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/Screenshot-2024-03-14-at-12-.png"><figcaption>Paul Miller</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:01:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 71: 2023 AFERM-AGA ERM Workshop</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan chat with Bobbi-Jo Pankaj and Bert Nuehring about the 2023 AFERM-AGA ERM Workshop and the accompanying report that was just published.</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://portal.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/Bert-Nuehring.jpg"><figcaption>Bert Nuehring</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:03:21 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 70: ERM at the Export-Import Bank</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Eric Arnold talks about the Export-Import Bank’s unique ERM program and some impressive home grown ERM tools!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:04:30 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 69: Generative AI</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Sophia Carlton from Accenture about the risks…and benefits from Generative AI! Specifically we delve into Generative AI and fraud detection & prevention.</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:05:17 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 68: AFERM Volunteer Award Winner</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with AFERM 2022 Volunteer Award Winner, Soumya Chakraverty! We discuss his work in both commercial and government ERM, as well as where ERM is headed.</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:06:03 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 67: ERM at FRTIB</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we catch up our first ever Risk Chats guest, Tom Brandt! Tom currently supports the ERM program at the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board (FRTIB).</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:06:58 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 66: HUD OIG</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Dr. Temika Edwards, CRO at the HUD OIG, about their ERM program!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:08:06 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 65: ERM at HRSA</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Cynthia Baugh and Liz DeVoss about the Health Resources and Services Administration’s (HRSA) ERM program!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:08:50 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 64: ERM at EPA</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we speak to Nikki Wood and Bradley Grams about EPA’s approach to ERM!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 63: City Of Phoenix</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan chat with Mel Thomson from the City of Phoenix about their ERM program and the unique challenges of establishing a program at a large city!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:10:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 62: ERM at DOI BTFA</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan chat with Jason Bruno from the Department of Interior Bureau of Trust Funds Administration about their ERM program. Jason also discusses his role this year as AFERM President Elect!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:11:13 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 61: AFERM President Roth</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan chat with current AFERM President Marianne Roth about her goals for the year and multiple AFERM events coming up in the next few months!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:37:05 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 60: US Coast Guard</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan chat with Lieutenant Commander Scott Nichols from the US Coast Guard about the evolution of the program and their data analytic approach.</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:37:55 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 59: AFERM 2022 Survey Results</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, Paul and Dan kick off 2023 chatting with Kate Sylvis from Guidehouse about the 2022 AFERM Survey results! See the report here: <a href="https://www.aferm.org/page/guidehouse-and-aferm-2022-survey-results">Guidehouse and AFERM 2022 Survey Results Reveal State of ERM in the Federal Government – AFERM – Association for Federal Enterprise Risk Management</a></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:39:55 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 58: AFERM Summit 2022 Preview</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>This episode is a preview of the upcoming AFERM Summit scheduled for October 26th to 27th! We talk to our President Daniella Datskova and Summit organizer Mike Batlogg about the theme, sessions, logistics and everything else you need to know. </p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/mike-batlogg-239x300.jpg"><figcaption>Mike Batlogg, 2022 Summit Chair</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:41:39 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 57: Supply Chain Risk</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On today’s podcast, we have part two of our conversation with Vlad Antikarov, this time focused on Supply Chain Risk!</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:42:59 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 56: ERM for Capital Budgeting</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Vlad Antikarov from the Verea Group about using ERM for Federal capital budgeting. We discuss concepts such as Agility Adjusted Net Present Value and Proactive Resilience that utilize risk management concepts for capital project decision making.</p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:44:01 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 55: ERM at WMATA</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode Paul and Bert Neuhring chat with Liz Sullivan from the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) about their ERM Program!</p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://www.aferm.org/resource/resmgr/images/bert-nuehring.jpg" ><figcaption>Bert Nuehring</figcaption></img></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:45:10 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 54: 2021 ERM Survey Results</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we chat with Kate Sylvis from Guidehouse about the 2021 Federal ERM Survey Results! Check out the report here: <a href="https://www.aferm.org/page/surveys">aferm.org/page/surveys</a></p>]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:46:43 GMT</pubDate>
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<title>Episode 53: GMU’s Chief Risk Officer Program</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode, we talk with Brett Josephson, George Mason University Associate Dean for Executive Development, about their CRO program! For more information about the program follow <a href="https://business.gmu.edu/executive-development/programs-for-individuals/c-suite-development-programs/chief-risk-officer-program/" target="_blank">this link</a>.</p>
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<title>Episode 52: AFERM AGA 2021 ERM Workshop</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode we discuss the report on the results on the 2021 AFERM AGA workshop with Bert Neuhring from Crowe and Steve Kunze from the Department of Commerce.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:49:13 GMT</pubDate>
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